Support Team Documentation Meeting

20080205 at IoA: 10-16

Agenda

• I want to go through the beta.astrogrid.org pages - review for content and consistency. Allocate missing sections to complete - see also SciTeamOps20071127
• look at the worked examples and check the ones we have - and identify which others are required
• consider the NAM2008 meeting - identify what we should be highlighting on the demo stand.
• thoughts on the beta vodesktop in action - items to feedback to the developer team
• other items that you may want to discuss?

Present

Anita, Silvia, Eduardo, Nic, Jonathan, Dugan

Notes

beta doc pages at http://beta.astrogrid.org

Issues:

• File:
  • the login/logout bit needs to be linked to the main text on this.
  • smartlist needs to be linked to the using voexplorer page (use an anchor tage link to the relevant bit in this page
• Resource: need to make the links for the sections like Query, Build ADQL, etc to the main help pages for these.
• All VO Scope: this name will change to [nop]AstroScope in the final release - so Gary to write a script to change references from All VO Scope to AstroScope.
• Helioscope: nice to show an image being viewed in aladin or a plot in topcat.
• Using VOScope: In a caveat section: need to note in a caveat that catalogue returns into VO Scope get returned to the local VO Scope - and if they are big can use up a lot of memory and 'bomb' VO scope. (Unlike images/spectra where you get a list of pointers to the data - so smaller files).
• Query help need link to the ADQL syntax - ie what words you can use. And perhaps a '20 queries' type page (people to send anita example queries).
• Self tests needs more explanation on what sem of the tests actually are.
• Python: as we more to the full docs need to split these pages such that the install bit or python is part of the installing 'AstroGrid Desktop Suite' pages
  • JAT will run through the python pages to check that they make sense

Worked examples

• new examples will get added
• NAW to add some descriptinve text to each of th bullet list points
• SD to add some examples on STP - in particular the CTIP script

Full release docs

• see top level design notes at Release2008TopLevelDesign
  • comments invited.
  • first impressions of the design pdf were positive. all liked the idea of a astrogrid desktop suite, and a corresponding astrogrid server suite for data publishers.
• issue of helper applications - which ones should we highlight

by end Feb need a full release science set of pages. these will be the current beta docs moved over to www.astrogrid.org

• NAW will clone the current pages to the draft www.astrgrid.org site to form the basis of the science pages. top level intro page ill need a major edit - as is currently aimed at beta testers.

NAM2008 meeting - identify what we should be highlighting on the demo stand.

• web page at http://nam2008.qub.ac.uk/
• SD to sort out logistics / Gary to sort out networking.
• SD/NW/GG will be there on the 31/3 for setup. AMSR/DKW/EGS/JAT from the 1st April. Need to know who will be responsible to hand over the kit to mark wells on clear up Fri afternoon.
• SD - set up a wiki planning page for the NAM - a la the pages for previous NAMs. NAM Page is here: AgNam2008
• NAW to get two posters made up. No fliers - but will get one A4 handout made up with some links and nice pictures of vodesktop. SD to draft.

* alma - gary fuller re their archive stuff. esa - matteo.

Upcoming conferences

• AG Critical review - Mon 3 March - silvia may need to be there.

• VOTECH - March 2008 - Anita, JAT (if there is some particular session).
• IVOA Interop - May 2008 - trieste - AMSR, JAT, SD
  • Need an IVOA pre meeting to firm up issues of AG importance. (STAP/ Event/ SAMP/ ADQL)
• JENAM - Sep ??

Support users post release (so post 1 Apr 2008)

• need to set up a rota of one scientist responsible for dealing with 'helpdesk' issues - two week blocks.
  • need a diary of who is here/away
• warwick / solar - SD

• standard talk - (with adaptations for e.g. xray/radio/solar) - 30 mins plus 30 min demo/movies (one person)
  • option for 1-2 hr hands on (two people plus gary for network)

• Cambridge/ Southampton/ Herts (Feb/Mar)
• Edinburgh/ Leicester/ Manchester/ MSSL/ Oxford/ UCL/ Cavendish/ Durham
• LivJM / Cardiff/ Birmingham/ Glasgow (solar)/ St Andrews (solar)/ Bristol/ Exeter/ Belfast/ Imperial/ Sussex/ QMW/ Nottingham
• OU/ UCLAN/ Keele/ Leeds/ RAL/ Sheffield
• Aber/ Lancs / Canterbury/ Brunel

NAW to send out to these places to get on their talk schedules. In general AL or NAW to give talk, helped as appropriate by others. Agreed to have a single point of contact in organising these AG talks.

Re future workshops - lets wait for some user demand - then organise some sort of themed workshop to support particular science areas - e.g. hi-z gals, cmb, gal structure, etc etc .

Also - AG scientists can work on science topics using AG tools and submit these to specific science conferences.

Support of deployment

• JAT/AMSR will be lead scientists helping deployment of new data to the VO
  • leverage our Euro-VO DCA work - need to check the UK DC returns to the Euro-VO DCA questionnaire -target help at those.
  • issue of the astrogrid server suite - what's in it - DSA, DALtoolkit?
• Annotations not seen as urgent at this stage - focus on getting the registry entries correct more important
  • AMSR/JAT to wrk with Kona on the new DSA registry entry

AOB

• Thailand meeting - AMSR/JAT
• FP7 radionet training proposals - AMSR
• XMM granada meeting end May 08 - JAT
• Aus-VO - NAW

Meeting closed at 15.45