WP-A5.3 Focus Meeting @ Jodrell Bank (2002-05-24)
Present: Ant Holloway (AH), Anita Richards (AMSR), Bob Mann (BM), Simon Garrington (SG), Tony Linde (TL).
Time: 08:30-13:00
Actions: listed at the end of this report.
1.
Introduction:
BM noted that the recent
AstroGrid architecture meeting (see
WPA1Focus20020517) had agreed that the optical and X-ray pilots
(
WP-A5.1 and
WP-A5.2, respectively) should
be terminated, but that the remaining three pilots should proceed to
the end of Phase A, as planned. He explained that this was the first
of two meetings (see
WPA5Focus20020527 for the other) reviewing
the progress on the three remaining pilots and scheduling the work
for Q4. Another goal was to identify material that BM could include
in his talk on the Pilot Programme at the Garching VO conference.
2.
WP-A5.3 progress and plans:
The progress to date on WP-A5.3, and plans for Q4 work, were discussed
by means of running through the WP-A5.3 deliverables for Q3 listed in
the
WP-A5 Q3 Forecast and the tasks remaining for
Q4, as listed in the
WP-A5.3 Project Description, as
follows:
- 5.3.0 Design and requirements
Pretty much complete: the prioritisation of datasets for inclusion in the pilots is in hand (see note on 5.3.4 below); aips++ has been installed on COBRA; and some scientific requirements have been
derived by AMSR's consulting colleagues at Jodrell Bank.
- 5.3.1 Evaluate aips++ for remote/distributed access to visibility data
Work to date has centred on producing a cgi wrapper to AIPS, not
aips++, because the behaviour of AIPS is well understood, while
aips++ retains some oddities. This cgi wrapper allows a user to launch AIPS with a particular set of inputs (data set, reduction parameters,
etc) and it will go away and reduce the specified dataset.
About 50% of the work on this has been done, and it should be
complete by the end of Q3: remaining work basically just sorting out
various problems with file permissions and cgi.
- 5.3.2 Develop prototype environment for access to visibilty data
This is likely to be a simple HTML form, although it is possible that
it may be integrated with the JBO archive software. Either way, it
will hide from the user all the oddities of AIPS user accounts, etc.
Work on this can proceed in parallel with the other tasks of this
pilot, and it should be complete by mid-August: a mock-up of the
HTML front-end, and some information on the workflow run by users
of this prototype will be provided to BM for inclusion in his
Garching talk.
- 5.3.3 Develop metadata standards for interferometric data
This task is an important part of AMSR's work for
AVO's Interoperability work area, as well as a core component of this pilot.
To date, thoughts have centred on the inclusion of interferometry
metadata within the UCD (Unified Column Descriptors) framework developed by CDS. Very little radio data is included in the CDS
system at the moment, so not much thought has gone into defining
UCDs relevant to radio astronomy, and those radio surveys that are
included have been pretty minimalist in their approach to providing
metadata, so we aspire to something more comprehensive now.
To a large extent, it is expected that the required metadata can be
fit into the UCD system - it's just a case of defining the new
terms needed for radio interferometry. For example, data near the
edge of the field of an interferometry observation are degraded in
a variety of ways, and one needs metadata to describe that, so that
a user can decide whether it is possible to generate a postage stamp
image of sufficient quality at such a sky position.
In some situations, however, the meaning of terms is different in
interferometry than in other areas of astronomy. For example, the
duration of an interferometric observations sets its field of view,
rather than its depth, as in optical astronomy, say, so that one must be careful that, if one uses existing UCDs it is clear which of a
possible multiplicity of interpretations is intended, lest a naive
user be misled. One way of handling this would be to set up a number
of "ontology namespaces" for the VO, so that differences in the meaning of terms in different communities could be handled clearly.
AMSR will produce a short note on the discussions on image data
metadata she has had with CDS by the end of the quarter, while an
initial draft of a fuller report on interferometry metadata will be
delivered by mid-August, in time for inclusion in the WP-A5 report.
- 5.3.4 Select and prepare radio data for use in pilot
The full set of options are listed in the
WP-A5.3 Project Description, but the priorities within them are becoming settled,
with the Hubble Deep Field (HDF) as top priority, followed by a subset of
the MERLIN archive: a one page note on the final choice, and the
rationale behind it, will be posted in the Wiki by the end of Q3.
- 5.3.5 Trial of remote processing on JBO CORBA (aips++ pimager)
The pimager task is a parallelised interferometric imaging tool being
pushed by the BIMA millimetric interferometer team in the US. It has its own message passing sysem (Glish), while individual pimager tasks
use MPI.
The source code has been made available to JBO, and it has been
installed on CORBA, but has proven difficult to compile, as it has
a number of system dependencies. SG and AH are fairly confident that they can get these sorted in the next few weeks, but, if they can't get pimager running by the start of August, the fallback position is to use the non-parallelised version. This will allow some scalability experiments, but not as full a range as initially anticipated.
- 5.3.6 Investigate tools for multi-wavelength comparisons
This is to take a lower priority than the pimager stuff, probably only receiving a week or so's effort later in Q4. One suggested thing to look into is the generation of radio interferometric postage stamp images for Chandra AGN candidates in the HDF for which these do not
yet exist and their overlaying on other HDF image data using GAIA and/or
ds9.
- 5.3.7 Evaluate test bed implementation
Two JBO staff (Tom Muxlow and Andy McDonald) have been lined up as
beta-testers, and efforts will be made to identify at least one
external guinea pig. It is intended that the prototype system will be delivered by the end of July, allowing the test users to have a couple of weeks to play with them, before the delivery of a report on
their experiences by mid-August.
3.
Actions:
The short-term Actions are as follows:
- By the end of May:
- finish cgi wrapper to AIPS (AH, SG)
- post short note on dataset selection into Wiki (SG)
- Before Garching:
- SG to send BM ppt file on radio astronomy and the VO
- AMSR to produce interim report on image metadata
- SG to send BM image of HTML form mock-up
- BM to liase with SG over contents of Garching talk
A fuller list of Actions will be included in the
Q4 forecast for WP-A5.
--
BobMann - 28 May 2002